Why socom 4 failed

Sorry man dreams isnt gonna sale. Just like all those games dont. An innovative or not they just don't sell big. Online shooters sale alot more. If innovative means another level building game that falls sure bro. Take beyond game bad reviews or the order bad reviews aswell. Socom would outsell all those. I actually liked the order tho just saying. U know why xbox doesnt make those games 1. They like money and make games that sell. Ms hates new ip but still they sell better.

They stick with what there fans want. Even there new ip is stuff there fans want. Man you dont know what your talking about lol Sony last gen killed it with new ips and the sales of those new exclusive ips. You listen too much to pr spin. Most of these ar new ips. They all sell in the multiple millions and only the Halo series last gen sold more than GT series on Ps3 so dont believe everything you hear. Hmmmmm so Dreams wont sell? Just like ppl thought LBP wouldnt sell but the series has sold over 10 million, just like TLOU wouildnt sell but between ps4 and 3 its sold more than 10 millions hmmmmmm oh BB on PS4 wont sell yet its close to 3 million lol You see what im getting at?

Your narrative is flawed. Microsft likes money and only invests in games that sell hmmmmm lets see Forza on Xbone sold what? Froza 6 only sold , lol Horizon only a little over 1 million. What did Driveclub on PS4 sell which shouldnt beat Forza because its a new ip! Sorry dude you argument is really flawed. Dreams is made by Media olecule which has been a selling powerhouse for Sony and Dreams will sell better than most Xbone games bet that.

As long as it sells 2 mil at least its good so i see Sony having no issue. You better keep track of xbone sales as their software in terms of exclusive sales isnt doing good look at Tomb Raider at like , ouch! Your narrative that "all those games dont sell" is very weak and i just shut it down completely. I already mentioned to you what Socom 4 sold last gen so you saying Socom will sell more is frivolous at best.

Yea a game of shitty puppets. What are u playing excalty. Everyone ripped the order for having no gameplay all cutscenes. Dreams is a movie. Surprised that Xbox fanboys would actually upvote this guy. Just look at his grammar. He clearly knows nothing about the game either. LBP3 sold a million and a half physical, even before you factor in digital sales. Remasters sell because people want them. If there was no market for them, they wouldn't get made. Yes, they're making Dreams.

Sony is capable of doing more than one thing at a time, and creating products that appeal to different groups of people. That's why it didn't sell well. People want a game like Socom 2, not like Ghost Recon. DoctorFraud: It didn't set the charts on fire after the outage either. We're talking lifetime sales since April for SOCOM vs lifetime sales of games with a whole lot less time under their belt.

Socom 4 pushed respawns and killstreaks over tactics Hell it didnt even ship with the most popular mode Demolition!! Damn you Seth Luisi H hour looks promising but man they are taking thier sweet time with it- i think i crowd funded it like 4 years ago. Lol every time a article about a possibility of major old playstation games yoshida pops up hes always telling you what game you cant have.

But apparently millions of the 30 million ps4 fans needed a Day of the tentacle remaster because that was on the "buildingthelist". This is becoming hysterical now. Those are small budget. Socom series was really big budget francises for Sony.

Socom 2 was not an easy game to developed right from get go. Yes, i do wish Socom need to come back, but it gonna be awhile to hear any information about the new Socom game.

It was broke as hell but gameplay was better. They could make an online only socom for cheaper then dreams abd little big planet games. Little big planet 3 had bigger budget then socom games. That game sold like crap. I dont believe for one second that they couldnt make an online socom game with about 10 to 12 maps for cheaper. No excuse they could make money off it no problem.

Socom confrontation sold over 1. Shows how dedicated socom fans are. They also kickstared that crappy h hour because were so desperate. This is my number 1 problem with the way playstation is going.

People can call me a fanboy all they want but it's this type of behavior from their execs that have me criticizing them. You're absolutely right. So the fans want a bunch of these old Double Fine and Lucas Arts games that bombed and no Socom remastered or even a Socom game? They can greenlight games like Dreams which is guaranteed to bomb, but greenlight a new Socom game?

Sony is moving in a direction with Yoshida and Layden that I can't go with. Yeah like LBP bombed lol Please man you dont know what your talking about. LBP was a new ip that has sold close to 6 million Bloodborne new ip that sold close to 3 million, Dreams is going to sell at least a million and for a new ip that will be good itll probably sell more than 2 million which will be great.

Socom 4 didnt dnt even sell a million on a console with 80 million plus install. Its crazy to me that they think so of these games would sell better then socom. Also tired of hearing socom would cost so much money. They could make online only socom or remaster for same price if these other games that will fail.

I agree. I own every console this generation and a high end PC but my preferred console has always been PlayStation though my preferred platform is PC but anyway , and it has been since the PS1. I try to support Playstation every gen because I've always loved their first party titles and exclusives, however this gen so far I haven't supported many simply because they aren't delivering like they've done in the past.

People say to support these companies and they'd be more disposed to getting out more experiences that their fans ask for and want but this gen that has not been the case. The reason why I was happy to see PS4 selling so well was because it could mean Sony would possibly have more wiggle room in their budget to make experiences fans like me come to expect.

The reason why I thought it was OK to start paying Sony to play multiplayer online with PS4 although I've been a plus member since it released on PS3 was because I thought it would lead to fans benefiting at the end of the day with, again, the experiences many fans have been asking for and even a noticeably better network infrastructure. It just seems like this gen Sony is taking the money they are getting and throwing it down a black hole.

I don't want remasters. I don't want Dreams, I don't want ft Robot Golf. I don't want Job Simulator, and I dont know anyone who was asking for them. Bloodborne and Ni-Oh I remember seeing Yoshida speak before the reveal of each and say how passionate he is about each one.

With all that said and done, Playstation is still my preferred console. But I've been more critical of them this gen than the previous gens because I, like you, am noticing a direction they seem to be going in that I'm debating if I should continue to follow, and I'm not going to just keep following them because they 'use' to make games I like. I want the games Playstation is known for, some impressive new IP, and heck even a better paid network.

I dont feel like these things are unreasonable. I half expected someone to come out of the woodwork and shit on me for having a not so popular opinion about Sony here. I do understand the reasons why they are doing it. Heck, I feel like there are people out there who definitely should get a chance to experience titles like Heavy Rain and the Uncharted games. I'm just tired of seeing fans vocal about games or features they want for their system only to have the Sony reps say "Nope" and instead give us things a lot of fans didn't necessarily ask for, then act surprised when fans aren't exactly excited.

With all this said, I'll still wait patiently throughout this gen, and ride with them until it's over. At the end of this gen I'll know for sure if I'll continue with Playstation or if I'll just stick with PC for my gaming wants. That whole Building the list is flat out a joke and I am sure Gio is well aware of it. Building the list in Sony's mind is low budget indie games. Playstatiin needs to just stick to the script. The console will sell off its name alone all this V R stuff looks cool but in all thats really not what us as fans want our have been asking for?

Do we get that? Nope, we get stuff that really doesn't matter. Yes it makes the console better and more social but that's not what's important giving your core based, day 1 fans, what they've been asking for should be what's important. So if we can't have a Socom game can we at least have Mag back our something like it. Oh please. People buy shooters. The install base is there to sell it and as long as they put it early in the year or early summer to keep it away from the CODs and big shooters it would be fine.

Yoshida thinks he knows what the fans want. It's a good portion of gaming now a days, hence why Shooters tend to be the biggest games each year H hour flopped and devs stole everyones money. There is like 3 guys working in a basement on it. You get deleted if you do. Reissue Socom 1, 2 and 3 remastered. Work on Socom 4 with campaign mode included. Why dont you fix your already broken game Socom Confrontation before releasing another broken game?

This game will have low sales due to the work thats been done on Confrontation. Suck SIX does it again. Get the word out? I have the Yankees winning a much hard fought series in Game 7. Yeah it should be a good World Series. Ha Ha. Good luck though. Wow, you guys are being harsh…and I guess its mostly deserved.. I havent touched Socom for months now…I always believe they would fix it. But wow still broken huh.

One very important question: Will there be a demo or multiplayer beta released before that date? Mark Mark Mark. Do you enjoy it when your plane is delayed and you get to spend more time in the terminal listening to the gate agents scream into the microphones? Because this is essentially the same thing as your lame closing line.. Please review your math. A will leave you right where you began. You likely meant a Sorry, this is an annoyance of mine that hurts my brain when I hear dumb people try and use math to appear smart.

Delay after delay. It has a monopoly on the market. Why do you think Slant is giving us all the finger?

You failed the community. This blog entry truly was a big slap in all of our faces.. If we get a release date that is within a reasonable timeframe, and when it finally passes and the DLC and 1. But not until that litmus test is passed.

So stop complaing about how incomplete confrontation was and how bad of a job slant six did. They made tactical strike a great game, i think they can make socom 3 amazing. So all you guys that are complaing get off their back!!! I cannot believe Zipper made MAG. Been playing the beta for a week now. Run, shoot, die, respawn, repeat. The project went through too many Creative Directors and Art Directors, many of whom, at the outset, had some genuine enthusiasm for the project and some great ideas.

Couple that with an unwillingness to deliver the type of experience Sony was interested in — one that more closely resembled elements from Killzone or Uncharted — and a recipe for disaster was brewing long before any of the game's really meaty content was fleshed out. Steiner was equally enthusiastic, and had some good ideas, but a person can only take hearing "no" for so long. Look at Hockey, Sports used to make Hockey games, but they stopped, why? They could not touch the competition, so no longer wished to try.

While it isn't the full story, this brief look behind the curtain should help gamers and SOCOM fans alike to understand just what transpired in the years leading up to SOCOM 4 's release.